Comments on: Opera Unite : A model for server disintermediation on the internet http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/2009/06/opera-unite-a-model-for-server-disintermediation-on-the-internet/ Dhananjay Nene's opinions on software programming, design, architecture and the internet Sun, 28 Feb 2010 03:58:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Wayne http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/2009/06/opera-unite-a-model-for-server-disintermediation-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-8511 Wayne Sun, 21 Jun 2009 12:58:19 +0000 http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/?p=737#comment-8511 Unite reminds me of two P2P architecture models attempted: one was designed to be "pure" P2P, i.e., no central server at all. The other requires central server(s) as police to guide traffic when inquired. In the end, the "pure" p2p model never took off, since the network is vulnerable and easily broken into pieces with key nodes went offline. And the server guided P2P apps became popular (bittorrent, emule, kazaa ...) But one thing to note is that, the server guided p2p model is never composed of ONE dominant server (or cluster), instead thousands of servers owned by various parties worldwide are serving as servers. A given server may be up or down or unreachable at times, but the servers as a whole are always there. Anyway, the Unite to me is a disruptive technology, moving intelligence of the web more to the edge rather than concentrate into the center... though the long term effect remains to be seen. Unite reminds me of two P2P architecture models attempted: one was designed to be “pure” P2P, i.e., no central server at all. The other requires central server(s) as police to guide traffic when inquired.

In the end, the “pure” p2p model never took off, since the network is vulnerable and easily broken into pieces with key nodes went offline. And the server guided P2P apps became popular (bittorrent, emule, kazaa …)

But one thing to note is that, the server guided p2p model is never composed of ONE dominant server (or cluster), instead thousands of servers owned by various parties worldwide are serving as servers. A given server may be up or down or unreachable at times, but the servers as a whole are always there.

Anyway, the Unite to me is a disruptive technology, moving intelligence of the web more to the edge rather than concentrate into the center… though the long term effect remains to be seen.

]]> By: Parag Shah http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/2009/06/opera-unite-a-model-for-server-disintermediation-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-8350 Parag Shah Wed, 17 Jun 2009 09:44:16 +0000 http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/?p=737#comment-8350 Hi Dhananjay, I am not very sure if this is true disintermediation: I picked this passage from Opera Unite's dev primer... "Opera Unite is, in short, a Web server running inside the Opera Web browser. This Web server allows the user to install services and share these services with their friends and colleagues (or everyone, if they wish). The interaction is all done via a central Opera Unite server — Opera Unite uses a proxy between the server and its clients (found at operaunite.com) to avoid the need for any special firewall configuration." It says the interaction is done via Opera's central server, so it seems that it is still being intermediated by Opera's sever. -- Regards Parag Hi Dhananjay,

I am not very sure if this is true disintermediation: I picked this passage from Opera Unite’s dev primer…

“Opera Unite is, in short, a Web server running inside the Opera Web browser. This Web server allows the user to install services and share these services with their friends and colleagues (or everyone, if they wish). The interaction is all done via a central Opera Unite server — Opera Unite uses a proxy between the server and its clients (found at operaunite.com) to avoid the need for any special firewall configuration.”

It says the interaction is done via Opera’s central server, so it seems that it is still being intermediated by Opera’s sever.

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Regards
Parag

]]> By: rcanblog http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/2009/06/opera-unite-a-model-for-server-disintermediation-on-the-internet/comment-page-1/#comment-8316 rcanblog Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:26:58 +0000 http://blog.dhananjaynene.com/?p=737#comment-8316 But it is still not clear how it is working and what will be the effect of internet connection and system speed, is this is something like Google Wave http://rcanblog.com/2009/06/opera-unite-a-unique-webservice/ But it is still not clear how it is working and what will be the effect of internet connection and system speed, is this is something like Google Wave

http://rcanblog.com/2009/06/opera-unite-a-unique-webservice/

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